Which domain name do you use? gammon.com.au or mushclient.com ?

Posted by Nick Gammon on Thu 20 Aug 2009 11:47 PM — 18 posts, 90,324 views.

Australia Forum Administrator #0
I use two domain names for this site:

  • gammon.com.au - the original one
  • mushclient.com - more recent, and more obviously associated with MUSHclient


I am curious to know which one you generally use. It is hard to see (as far as I can see) which one is used. Basically they end up in the same place, looking at the same files.

I have been making the forum template tags refer you to (for example) http://mushclient.com/faq - because that is quicker to type and easier to remember.

However I notice that if you have logged into the forum on gammon.com.au and then switch to mushclient.com, you appear to be logged out (of the forum). This is because the cookie with your login token is associated with the domain name in your web browser.

I can try to standardize the template tags (and other places that are easy to change) to be one or the other.

So my question basically is, which domain name do you usually use to reach this site?

  • gammon.com.au

    or
  • mushclient.com
#1
I use gammon.com.au.
USA #2
mushclient.com
USA #3
I use gammon.com.au, but more out of force of habit than anything.
USA #4
Homepage is set to gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php

I'll usually type mushclient<ctrl+enter> and have to click the login button... which redirects me back to gammon.com.au after logging in.

Canada #5
My bookmark is direct to the forum on gammon.com.au simply because I've been coming here since before the mushclient.com
USA #6
Same as Hanaisse et al., I use gammon.com.au just because that's what my bookmark was set to however many years ago it was.

That said, I type in mushclient.com when I want to refer to links like mushclient.com/gdb.
#7
gammon.com.au seems more logical because you have a lot more than just MUSH on this site.
#8
I type in mushclient.com to get here.
USA #9
As Hanaisse said, I use gammon.com.au because I've been coming here since long before there was a mushclient.com.
USA #10
gammon.com.au

I help more with Smaug than I do MUSHclient. D:
USA #11
mushclient.com

Something I've done though, in cases like this, is where you set the cookie, make an iframe with 0 width, 0 height and whichever domain you're using, load something in the other to set a cookie from the other domain at the same time.

Another solution I've seen used is when you log in, have it redirect to the other and set the cookie, then redirect back to the normal 'logged in' page.
Amended on Thu 27 Aug 2009 03:50 AM by Fadedparadox
Netherlands #12
Actually, it's more like there are four. From most-used to least-used on my pc:

1. www.gammon.com.au
2. gammon.com.au
3. mushclient.com
4. www.muchclient.com

I tend to bump heads with the first three and needing to relogin, which really annoys me once I begin hitting my back button combined with more link-clicking. Personally I think configuring Apache (or IIS, whatever you use) to redirect all stuff of all other domains to one other domain to be the best thing to deal with forum cookies and such stuff.

Then again, for the MUSHclient specific stuff (download, help, scripts, MUSH forum?) the seperate domain seems like a great option as well. I personally tend to get lost in the 'help/support' maze: finding help on script functions, searching for old posts, etc... most of those take just a few clicks too many to get to for it to be convenient.

Just my five eurocents. :)
USA #13
Worstje said:

4. www.muchclient.com


A typo, I hope. ;)
Australia Forum Administrator #14
Worstje said:

Actually, it's more like there are four.

...

Personally I think configuring Apache (or IIS, whatever you use) to redirect all stuff of all other domains to one other domain to be the best thing to deal with forum cookies and such stuff.


I was about to contradict you, but tested it first, and you are right! That's terrible!

Unfortunately I don't get to configure Apache myself, but I will read up on the documentation at Superb.Net and see if there is any way of at least not needing to put in your password four times.
Australia Forum Administrator #15
One possible solution is to change the way the forum handles logging in. At present, it stores one hashed token per user. What this means is, as soon as you login, it generates a new random token id, and stores that in your cookie.

Now it would be reasonably simple to allow multiple tokens (like many other sites do), so you can be logged in at more than one PC. I personally find it a hassle when I switch PCs for some reason, to have to login again.

However there is one big advantage of the system. It means that if you go to somewhere (eg. a friend's place, an Internet café or something) and login *and forget to logout again* - your (old) login session is automatically cancelled the moment you login again at a new place.

Perhaps a workaround is to allow multiple logins, but have some sort of "cancel all logins" button, which would remove from the database any login tokens you left lying around.

Another workaround might be to allow multiple logins, but only from the same IP address. That way, if you are in a house behind a router, and each PC seems to have the same IP address from the point of view of the web server, then all PCs can be logged in. Also, all domain names can be logged in, even from one PC (eg. gammon.com.au, www.gammon.com.au etc.).

That is probably the most secure solution, and the easiest to implement, apart from mucking around with the way the forum handles login tokens.
Australia #16
I too am OS, i use www.gammon.com.au
Australia Forum Administrator #17
The forum now allows for multiple logins.

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